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Masonic celebration

Masonic celebration

I really fell in love with this photo when I first saw it. This is an 8×10 black & white glossy photograph of about 30 men in tuxedoes and Masonic regalia. Having no knowledge of the Masons except that it is an ancient order, at first I wasn’t sure it was indeed a photo of Masons. But, looking around right quick, I found this wonderful image which confirmed the type of regalia these men are wearing is in fact Masonic.

Harry S. Truman, Grand Master 1940-41, Image courtesy of U. S. National Archives & Records Administration

This is former President of the United States Harry Truman. The necklace he is wearing (if in fact it is called a necklace) is very similar to the ones in the upper image. In the 8×10 above, you can see that some of the medals displayed are in a simple triangle shape, and others are in a shape that I am calling a wonky diamond – it’s the shape created from a compass on top and a square rule on the bottom.

Basic Masonic “wonky diamond”

There is so much to know about this organization. Entire textbooks have been written just about their history. They date back many hundreds of years and claim many famous and influential people as members. Indeed, members often are found in the ruling offices of nearly every country, parliaments, senates and congresses, colleges and universities. They are sports stars, explorers and adventurers, musicians and actors. While some people keep their membership secret, others are loud and proud of being a Mason. There are so many going back through the centuries that Wikipedia has quite helpfully provided a list, in alphabetical order. :-)

For other people, adorned in medals, jewelry and other types of accoutrement, click over to Sepia Saturday. You will be happy you did!

All things beautiful

44 thoughts on “Regalia

  1. gluepot says:

    I found a similar freemason’s mark on a gravestone in a photo of a cemetery on the Western Front, and a possible “heart and hand” freemason’s mark on the back of a carte de visite. Presumably the photographer was using this symbol to attract custon from other members of the fraternity.

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  2. autumnmiss says:

    im new to your blog and think its great. I have a whole photo album of unknown people. I love the mystery but like to find out more ab out them too.
    Gill x

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    1. Mrs Marvel says:

      Welcome and thank you!

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      1. I just noticed the Symbol above ( had not noticed it when I began my note (letter, ha!) That looks exactly what is at the end of the chain on the watch that I was talking about. I’ll have my son take a picture of it to send you, if you’d like? Thanks for all your previous answers. I discovered a lot from “Who Are They?”Again thanks!

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  3. Boobook says:

    Accoutrement is a wonderful word.

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  4. Bob Scotney says:

    No mistaking that they are masons. The one to the right of the picture should have got rid of his cigarette.

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  5. postcardy says:

    I never hear anything current about Masons. Maybe they just don’t like publicity.

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  6. Karen S. says:

    Yes, even the men knew how to do it right!

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  7. Wendy says:

    It’s ironic that men typically don’t “do jewelry” in their daily lives but boy, put ’em in a club and they go to town with some regalia!

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    1. Mrs Marvel says:

      I was thinking the same thing haha

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  8. Jackie says:

    Interesting selection!! I got interested in the Masons when I read The Lost Symbol by Dan Brown.

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  9. kristin says:

    My father-in-law was a mason and they did a whole ceremony thing at his funeral.

    Funny we were just talking about “Accoutrement” around there recently.

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  10. Little Nell says:

    I have family members who are masons and I believe there is more to it than we can assume. Thank you for the ‘wonky’ description – and for giving me the idea for the prompt.

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    1. Mrs Marvel says:

      My college offered a course just dedicated to the Masons, and that was a 3 1/2 month study that probably just scratched the surface.

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  11. Tattered and Lost says:

    The handshake. I’ve always tried to find out about the handshake. Nobody will show it to me.

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    1. Mrs Marvel says:

      I can still remember my sorority handshake from college. I haven’t used it once since 1992 but it’s like it’s burned in my hand’s memory, lol.

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  12. Deb Gould says:

    Those Masons! Great selection on the topic of jewelry, too — it doesn’t matter WHO wears it, does it? Lots of Masons around here — I have a little book that seems to be printed in some kind of code: somebody told me it was a Masonic text!

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  13. grammaa says:

    Did you know that Grandpa George was a Mason. I don’t know how many years, but it was quite a long time – he made it to the highest division. It took several years and there was studying or classes of some kind. Gram belonged to the Auxuiliary – it was strictly social. I really know very little about what he did.

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    1. Mrs Marvel says:

      I didn’t know this! Did U. Chuck wind up with his regalia? Who knows where it is now, I suppose.

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  14. My Husband’s grandfather Gardner Johnson Snyder was Secretary of the Fidelity Lodge in Ridgewood, N.J. on Maple Avenue in the 1920’s &1930’s I know for sure. I don’t really know how many years total he was there? I also know when he retired he was given a Gold Watch with a long gold chain with a large Masonic Symbol on the end. It is beautiful! It was given to my husband & after my husband died i gave it to one of my sons who was interested in it! …………………………….. You may remember me? Gardner’s mother was Elizabeth Amy Lair (dau. of Edmund P. Lair & Elizabeth Maclone of Frenchtown, N.J.) I had written about & you answered my comment in ref. to the Amy Lair’s picture that was on “Who Were They? “I didn’t know whether she was my husband’s great= grandmother or not, but I knew the lady was related, due to the names in many of the comments. I appreciate so much for all the inf . you sent me on here & E-Mail! I have wanted to write you back in reference to something I am still puzzled over, but haven’t been able too since my genealogy is still in storage – (I thought I would have had it out a long time ago). I was afraid I would make an error? Hopefully, I can explain this so You will understand what I am talking about? …………………………………………………. In the 1850 N.J. Census, Philip & Mary Lair had a bunch of kids (appro.10?) with Amy Lair, being the oldest & John the youngest (according to the census) with John being Elizabeth Amy Lair’s father, & Amy his Sister —- How could she be her (Elizabeth Amy Lair’s) grandmother, as in her will we have? We also have one from Ida J. Hann (Elizabeth A.’s Aunt ) – Mary H. Hann’s sister & several others! These Copies are what I wanted to send you – a copy of, so you will understand what I’m talkng about? Remember you told me her other sister Margeret Hann Married Taylor Salter> I had told you that Amy Lair Apgar also had Salters & others in her Will, even before you sent me the information on the Salters, as well. I believe Ida J. Hann did too? I do hope this makes since? Please excuse errors & what-ever don’t make since write me back for an explanation? I Apologize for this being so long! …………………. I have two thoughts in mind of what could be possible, but my eyes are bothering me right now, so I will write back later & explain what I am thinking of? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Before I forget – would you know how Lambert C. Hann who married Sarah “Sadie” Snyder (sister of Gardner Johnson Snyder – in ref. to the Fidelity Lodge & Husband of Elizabeth Amy Lair) is related to Edmund P. Hann – if he is? As you know, this family is all mixed-up in many lines!!!!!! Thanks for all you have done for me previously!

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    1. Mrs Marvel says:

      Oh, my, the mystery of Amy Lair had slipped my mind but now you remind me, it was rather complicated! I tend to trust wills a tiny bit more than the census documents. Wills are written specifically so family treasures will be directed to the right people. Census takers sometimes had poor penmanship, spelled peoples names wrong, or even just used first initial/last name for long names. My guess in your case, is that there are TWO Amy Lairs – one the grandmother, one the daughter. Your family is also very intertwined with marriages I believe. It wasn’t unheard of for cousins/second cousins etc to marry, and that could really twist the branches!

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      1. The information I have on Gardiner Johnson Snyder &wife Elizabeth Amy Lair is also for The intense guy(forgot his e.mail) He also has helped me tremendously, and I really do appreciate it! I have been 30 + years looking for Elizabet Amy Lair’s parents & only after he sent me the inf. that I found them. There is two Amy Lairs in my husband’s family, which I have always known. As I said before Amy Lair Apgar (I believe married Lewis B. Apgar in her 40’s, best of my memory?) left a will leaving property to her “Granddaughter” Elizabeth Amy Lair, wife of Gardner Johnson Snyder of Ridgewood, N.J..” as stated in her will. Along with other relatives. I do remember, she mentioned a niece Ida J. Hann; nephew ? Salter & etc.. I have forgotten the other names. If I ever find it again I will send a copy! As I said before in her will she says she is the grandmother of Elizabeth Amy Lair Snyder. In the 1850 census of philip & mary Lair – Amy Lair Apgar is the older sister of John Lair (who supposedly both are children of Philip & Mary Lair.) If they did not have other very young children I would have thought she may have been John’s mother(born out of wedlock?) & all raised in same household – at time of census? Sure is a mystery!! Let me know what yo both think? The Amy Lair you had on the ” Who are They?” is related somehow as the names are some of the same as in her family. She was an older lady when she married, but no mention of her havin a child that I can see
        But mention’s all of Lewis’ children he had from first wife! I apologize if you can’t make heads or tails of this? It is complicated trying to explain? If there is any way either of you can help me with this, I sure would appreciate so much as I am already thankful for all you have done for me already! Thanks so much. Jan

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      2. Janice Earliene Carr says:

        I am trying to get inf. to Jami Young, but after 3rd. Try – still want go through! Jan Carr

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      3. Jaime Young says:

        Hi Janice!

        You can e-mail me, jay6175@hotmail.com

        Thank you!

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      4. Janice Earliene Carr says:

        I remember another name in the wills I had mentioned to you previously (from Amy Lair Apgar & Ida J. Hann -) was a Willis KEYSER. That was the other SURNAME, I had mentioned that I could not remember. He was Great-Grandson 0f Lambert & Sadie Snyder Hann, so there must be a connection with the two men – (Lambert C. & Edmond P. Hann) as both wills of Amy & Ida left Willis in them! I have pictures of Willis KEYSER as well (one of him & another relative pretending to be policemen playing around with Baton’s ‘ etc.) & many other relatives in them from my husband’s mother’s pictures. I believe this was Bucks Co., Pennsylvania?

        LAMBERT HANN Family is RELATED INDIRECTLY on the SNYDER/HANN side & the EDMOND P. HANN Family is DIRECTLY RELATED through the LAIR/HANN – (My husband’s Grandparents). ANYONE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THESE TWO MEN?
        I know this is confusing! It is a confusing family! Ha! :)

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    2. OOOPS! I made an error at top – I said Gardiner’s mother. – Elizabeth Amy Lair was Gardiner’s WIFE. Thanks so much for answering. I will tell you what I think happened when my eyes get better. Again thanks. Jan

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  15. In case you would rather reply by e-mail, please let me know, If you no longer have my e-mail address? Thanks, Jan

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    1. Jaime Young says:

      Hi Jan,
      I had read your comment where you had mentioned Lambert Hann and Sadie Snyder and I was wondering what information you had on them? They are my Great-Great Grandparents and my Grandmother asked me if I had found anything out about them because she knew I had been working on our family tree. I’ve found two different sets of information for Lambert. The first one is that his parents were Ida Jane and Lambert and the second is that his mother was Harriet Hann and that she was a widow. The second one sounds right because my grandmother was told that he didn’t have a father in his life but I’m at a standstill. Anything you know would help tremendously!
      Jaime

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  16. Janice Earliene Carr says:

    Jami, I have tried to send a reply to you today & It wouldn’t go through – this is my 4th. time, but will have to wait till later now as I need to go. I am so very sorry! I just found your message today! I wlll write you in a little while. Jan Carr (your cuz). :)

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  17. Janice Earliene Carr says:

    Jami, I apologize! We ended up w/ company out of town & they just left. I will try to give you the highlights for now of what I know from memory (my Genealogy, Pictures, Heirlooms, etc.,& etc. is in storage right now& of this family, as well as others!) – WILL GIVE YOU MORE DETAILS LATER – SOURCES, DATES & ETC…………………..
    To start with – LAMBERT C. HANN’s mother is HARRIET G. HANN
    He married SARAH M.SNYDER (my husband’s grandfather’s sister – mentioned above) Their children were OLIVE E., ALICE G.., ORVILLE,, I believe another?

    The last time I saw Olive & Ida, they came to visit us in the 1970’s & brought a niece, Alice & their nephew Jimmy KEYSER ( Ida died in 1989 I forgot when Olive died) while they visited us they identified a slew of pictures of the family in NEW JERSEY & BUCKS COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA we inherited from my hus. mother, including Ida & Olive’s immediate families ( their kids & etc.) & others, which also consisted of Orville, Uncle Lambert & Aunt Sarah. Also many, many of the Snyders& Johnson information. Previously before then in 1969 we had received a copy of a deed from an Elias Johnson & Dutilla Gano ESTATE, which would be your 4th. Great Grandparents – when we received it & other inf. in 1969 – did not know who they were or why? We were told they are my husband’s 3rd. Gr. grandparents. I believe they married On December 28,1848 Frenchtown, N.J. (I will check my records as I have a copy of them at my daughters.)

    We were also in contact with Jimmy & his wife Sylvia & kids up until about 2004 (lost contact, due to moving, I assume? – will explain more later) they were at Two of our daughters weddings in 1996 & 1998.

    Children of Lambert C. HANN & Sarah “Sadie” M. Snyder (daughter of Wesley Snyder & Emma Johnson)
    Olive Married Charles E. FOSTER (a daughter, Evelyn Eick). More info later!
    Orville married?
    Alice G. married William STANGLE (parents of Ida M. Stangle) I believe she died
    When we were in contact with them, they lived on Main Street in Pennington, N.J. In childbirth having Ida?) FINISH LATER. Again I apologize. -excuse errors!
    Your Cousin , Jan Carr. :)

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  18. Janice Earliene Carr says:

    Oops! Correction – I believe Alice died in childbirth having Ida? Would your grandmother know anything about that? What is her name, if you don’t mind me knowing in case I have ran across it in some of my “stuff” years ago? The DEED had names of descendants > down to my husband’s mother.

    I meant to ask you also. “HOW is your grandmother connected?” If Lambert & Sadie are her grandparents, which of their children did she descend from? Do you know any of the ones I have mentioned above? It seems there is another child, but mind’s gone blank? ha! There is also a nephew with a Hotel and he and his wife have a sight-seeing business, best I can remember? OR – at least heard about.

    On my husband’s grandmother’s side, (your Sadie’s Sister-In- Law) she also have HANNS ( DIRECTLY) connected! She is “Lizzie” ELIZABETH AMY LAIR Snyder, wife of Gardner Johnson Snyder. (Mentioned above & under the comments on Amy Lair in
    “Who AreThey.” – (a lot of information about her from the “Intense Guy,” “Mrs.Marvel” & myself.) He also sent me more through Email. I have spent over 30 years trying to find proof of her parents and a couple of years ago or less, he shocked me one day with with exactly that! Her parents were John LAIR & Mary H. HANN (daughter of Edmond P. HANN & Elizabeth MACLONE in 1870 & 1880 N.J. Census. (McAloan I have heard is the correct name, I don’t know for sure?)
    John died young working for the Railroad (more on him if interested?) & I believe Lizzie’s grandparents & other relatives helped raise her as she is in the 1880 census I mentioned earlier. Thanks & excuse such long note! Jan Carr :)

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    1. Jaime Young says:

      Hi Jan!
      This family really is confusing!

      The other daughter of LAMBERT HANN and SARAH SNYDER is EDITH HANN (1904-7/8/1969) who married JOHN HAROLD WHITEHEAD (12/25/1901-11/21/1978) on 7/2/1927.

      ORVILLE HANN (3/2/1902-12/7/1970) married GERTRUDE ROOKS (9/13/1906-7/3/1996). They had 4 children DORIS HANN, NANCY HANN, JOAN HANN and ROBERT ORVILLE HANN.

      DORIS HANN married LOUIS WESTPHAL and they have 1 daughter.

      NANCY HANN (my grandmother) married RONALD TILLETT and they have 5 boys.

      JOAN HANN was born in May of 1935 and died in February of 1936.

      ROBERT ORVILLE HANN (12/29/1939-12/20/2000) married PATRICIA RUDEBOCK and had 3 daughters.

      WILLIS KEYSER went missing on 9/11/1945 and was found on 9/13/1945 murdered. They had one suspect but couldn’t prove he had done it so it’s still a cold case. My grandmother (NANCY HANN) had gotten a copy of the police report from Lambertville, NJ police department and when she tried to get more information from the state police, they said they didn’t have a record of it.

      I’m a little confused about the STANGLE/KEYSER family because my grandmother’s memory isn’t what it used to be and she gets herself confused sometimes. What she told me was the IDA STANGLE had 3 illegitamate children with a married man from New Hope, PA. She gave me 3 names, (listed oldest to youngest) WILLIS KEYSER, ALICE KEYSER and JOHN KEYSER, but then she said JIMMY KEYSER. I know Jimmy and Sylvia and the kids because we went to school together and I knew we were related I just didn’t know exactly how and I’m still not 100% sure. If you could help me sort this out that would be super helpful, if not I could try to see if Melissa would be able to help out.

      If you don’t mind me knowing, was your husbands mother’s name OLIVE IDA SNYDER? I have a court summons that I borrowed from my grandmother listing a lot of heirs of ELIAS JOHNSON pertaining to a piece of property in KINGWOOD TOWNSHIP, NJ. I have read your comments and I see that you stated GARDNER JOHNSON SNYDER’S wife was ELIZABETH AMY LAIR but on the court summons I have it states that his wife’s name was LOUISE. Was LOUISE a second wife?

      I had no idea that ELIAS JOHNSON’S wife was DUTILLA GANO and neither did my grandmother so THANK YOU for that!

      The court summons I was talking about has A LOT of information on it including DOD’s, addresses at that point in time and a bunch of names that are descendant’s of ELIAS and DUTILLA. If you want more information on that, let me know!

      This family is definitely confusing but I love the challenge! Haha

      Jaime

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  19. Janice Earliene Carr says:

    Yes, Gardner was married twice. His 2nd wife was Louise Yeager Gardner and they had a daughter, Carolyn born in 1937. We were in contact until she died in 1978. She married a Pugsley & had 4 kids. I lost contact after her death – just found her kids a couple years ago and they are scattered all over the country, like mine are – (more on them later if interested?) Some people who starts genealogy wants everyone in family & others just want the direct line!
    EDITH was the one I was trying to think of yesterday. I remember Ida telling me about the WHITEHEAD FAMILY REUNION EVERY YEAR. Ida & Olive always envited us, but we never got to go. My husband & Ilived away from both our families, so it was hard enough trying to get around to both of the immediate each year with a houseful of kids & etc.., so we weren’t able to make it to others,due to work & etc……
    The Tillets sound very familiar to me. It seems like Ida & Olive mentioned them when they visited us & gave us an address of a Tillet couple, but can’t remember why, other than more info. on family?
    The copy of the Deed, I haven’t seen in years & years, so I don’t know whether it burned in a fire we had in 1977 or now in storage? We did loose a lot of family pictures & heirlooms, but there was a lot saved as well. If your grandmother want mind sending me a copy I will Email my address to her (or you?) I really would appreciate it so much! I have looked all over the computer trying to find it with no luck! There is something else important I wanted to tell you, but for now,I have forgotten – sorry! I will later when I remember. :)
    As for Orville, he must have really been loved by the family, according to my husbands’s mother & slew of pictures we had or have of hers!? Thanks for answering. Jan

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  20. I forgot to tell you, I will be glad to pay you for the copies, let me know how much? Thanks! I will write again as soon as I remember what else I it was that I wanted to tell you today. I tried to keep it as short as possible, but hard to do – I still didn’t make a dent as there is so much that it’s hard to know what is the most important? I have discovered the things I wan’t even interested in to begin turned out to be the most important!

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  21. THIS IS A SMALL WORLD! I just found your grandparents names, Nancy & Ronald Tillett & address . . . on N. Main Street in Lambertville, N.J. in my old telephone book I’ve had since 1970’s. Beside their names, I have Orville Hann Sr. & Orville Hann Jr. underneath their names. I have no idea why I have it unless Olive or Ida gave it to me, but if your grandmother don’t know them that well or vice- versa, it wouldn’t make since? I will try to remember more about this? Ask her if she ever remembers hearing from me or my husband “Jimmy” James William Carr?
    Yes , his mother was Olive Ida Snyder Carr ( hus. James Entwisle Carr) – her sister was Ethel Snyder Hardecoph ( hus. John Hardecoph).
    This isn’t what I had to tell you that I mentioned earlier about……. Jan

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  22. CORRECTION > I APOLOGIZE! :( FOR JAMI,
    Elias Johnson/Johnston & Duittilla Gano was my husband’s great- great grandparents instead of 3rd.. Great-Grandparents.
    Elias & Dutilla were married on December 28, 1844 in Kingswood Twp., Hunterdon County, N.J. (I checked my records to make sure, ha!) :) I

    Jami, please forgive me for writing so much, but when I remember something else, I feel I need to tell you before forgetting it (remembering the days when I started I wanted everything I could get!) as I am 77 now! – no young chick anymore!

    Is there ANOTHER Charlotte in the family? Olive (Foster) & Ida (Stangle) gave us some picture when they visited us, they were taken about the 60’s or 70’s oF a Birthday Party w/ a lady name Charlotte( looked to be in her 30’s or 40’s, maybe, even younger? (That’s when my Glacauma first started in 1977.) – sitting around a table with a slew of kids from all ages blowing out candles & etc.on a cake. There were others of John KEYSER & some kids as well. – many others. – some I believe of the WHITEHEAD REUNION?

    THESE AREN’T THE PICTURES I HAD MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY THEY HAD IDENTIFIED FOR ME FROM MY HUBAND’NS MOTHER’S ESTATE. Jan

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    1. Jaime Young says:

      Hi Jan!
      Thank you so much for all of this information! Every time I find something new about my genealogy I get really excited so anything you know will be wonderful!

      My email is jay6175@hotmail.com and I’ll send you a copy!

      The only Charlotte that I have come across is Charlotte Patricia WILLIAMSON. I only know about her from looking over the summons that my grandmother received.

      Jaime

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  23. JAMI, I have Emailed you several times -sent MY ADDRESS & ask for PRICE of the COPIES, so I could send it to you. Until I get YOUR ADDRESS I can’t even guess at the price, ha! OR I would have already guessed at it. ( sending more than most places charge!) I APOLOGIZE IF YOU SENT your address & some reason I didn’ t recieve it?

    To your question? >> Ida had 3 children – Willis, John & Alice! Jimmy was her grandson (will email you with that inf. later as I’m not feeling well right now. ) Do you know their address? There is a census with Ida living with her parents when Willis was a year old I believe. I will find it in my records & send to you. Please excuse errors! Take care. :). Jan

    Oh! Do you think that your Grandmother’s brother Robert Orville Hann could be the ORVILLE HANN JR. IN MY ADDRESS BOOK? Seems possible? ????

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  24. If you have sent an Email & I didn’receive it, let me know? I still don’t know where to send the money for copies! Thanks…….
    IN REF. TO LAMBERT HANN & EDMUND P. HANN connections to the family is that Lambert married into family ( sister of Gardner Johnson Snyder), Sadie Sarah Snyder. Edmund p. Hann was grandfather of (1st. wife of Gardner Johnson Snyder) “Lizzie”, Elizabeth Amy Lair.
    If Edmund & Lambert are related to each other, I have not been able to find the proof! Hopefully on day I will?
    CORRECTION! Ida was living w/ her Grandparents when her son Willis was a year old – not parents. Sorry!

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  25. Hope all of you are fine? Take care! :) Jan

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  26. Janice Earliene Carr says:

    Jami, I do hope all is O.K.? As I still have not heard from you as yet. I know at one time 3 people in your family had died, but you didn’t tell me who they were? AGAIN, I AM SO VERY SORRY! I still do not know where to send the money for those copies. I decide to write here in case you sent an email & for some reason I didn’t receive it! (I did get the one where you said you received MY address, but NOT the one with YOUR address). Also a CORRECTION – the girl at the table celebrating a birthday party with some kids name was GERTRUDE – NOT CHARLOTTE! BEST OF MY MEMORY, I BELIEVE SHE WAS THE CHILDREN’S MOTHER? That was in the middle 1970’s.. I really would love to have a copy,but if you aren’t able for some reason to send them to me – I would appreciate so much if you could email the names in the DEED to me. I WOULD APPRECIATE IT SO MUCH! Thanks in advance! Jan :)

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    1. Janice Earliene Carr says:

      Jami, I just found this after you told me your grandmother had died; I am so very sorry & do hope you received my Sympathy Card? I was’t sure it was right address, as I found it on line, I believe?
      I also Emailed you several times; hope you received them as well? I will write again after hearing from you! I do miss your messages& Emails!! Jan

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  27. Actually, I believe that these gents are BPOE, better known as the Elks. (Belevolent Protective Order of Elks) It’s hard to see the particular symbols on their collars, but the big clock on the podium is set at 11, which is one of the most common symbols of he Elks, referring to the 11o’clock toast to missing brothers; and “Fidelity” is one of the principles of Elkdom, but is not a word you will find (with any prominence) in Masonic ritual or parlance. These chaps are definitely Elks!

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  28. Janice Earliene Carr says:

    OOPS! ERROR again! Elizabeth Amy Lair, wife of Gardener Johnson Snyder was daughter of JOHN LAIR b.1847 & MARY HANN b.abt.1853 ~ NOT Edmund P. Lair & Elizabeth McClone- they are her grandparents, instead)! I apologize! I knew this; an oversight instead!

    Edmund P. Hann & Mary Mclone are Mary Hann’s parents!
    ( SEE 1870 N.J. Census!) others 1860, 1880 &1890!

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